It was not a military coup on July 15 attempt was only a small part of the military in Turkey. The coup leaders were neither patriots nor Kemalists. It consisted entirely of FETÖ and the CIA. This was not an attempt at US government designed and approved of regime change. It can be said that it was the initiative of an organization that focused on global structures within the structure of the USA.
Russian political scientist Dugin: Despite the disagreement within the US administration, the CIA was behind July 15
You were in Ankara on July 14, 2016, the day before the coup attempt. You have said that Turkey warned on July 14 about the coup attempt. How did you know that? What were the signs of the coup attempt?
First of all, I have to do a geopolitical analysis. I think the coup attempt was designed to undermine Russian-Turkish relations, just as with the downing of the Russian plane. Russian plane was an attempt to bring Russia and Turkey into military conflict. And it was actually the American forces behind it. I tried to persuade Ankara to apologize to Moscow. This solves the problem. It would also be a geopolitical gesture. Erdogan was aware that some groups close to Gulen had put pressure on him and wanted to remove him from power. When Erdogan apologized to Russia, it was clear that at least something would happen to me. With this apology, it was clear that Erdogan would move to a new stage with Russia. Erdogan also had enemies not only outside of Turkey. It was obvious that there would be an attack against Erdoğan by the US by the CIA. While in Turkey three years ago on July 14; Turkey’s steps taken towards Russia is very important, I said he could be faced with an attack against Erdogan. Of course, I had information about the possibility of such a coup attempt. But I didn’t know the exact details. Does it happen in 1 day, in 1 week, in 1 month or in any time period; I had no idea about this. On July 14, I had private meetings with different structures
“I told the Turkish deep state it would blow”
Did you share any information with Erdogan or any government official about the coup attempt? It is said that you are meeting with Erdogan’s top advisors.
I spoke with former Mayor of Ankara Gökçek, representatives of some military circles, Vatan Party and Eurasianists such as Hasan Cengiz. I did not speak to Erdogan or any government officials. But I held many meetings with experts and influential groups and even the Turkish deep state. I mentioned such a strong possibility in these meetings.
“Putin was informed of the coup”
Last year you made a speech about the coup attempt, this time in Turkey. In one part of your speech there is a statement: “Of course, Putin had all the necessary information through intelligence and other channels. But the most important thing is not the information. The most important thing is how that information is interpreted.” Is there a problem with the misinterpretation of information available? Did Turkey did not consider your warning?
Putin had been informed that there would be something in Turkey. Putin is of course a statesman who can interpret this information through two different possibilities. First, Putin could evaluate that such a coup in Turkey. Secondly come to an end in terms of Erdogan’s Turkey-Russia relations would be much worse. Liberal, globalist, anti-Eurasian, Russian anti-air can occur, could start a civil war in Turkey. If the coup had been successful, we would have faced such situations. Erdogan’s defeat would be negative not only for him but also for us. This was not only a prediction, but also a phenomenon. So when the coup came, Putin immediately announced that he knew Erdoğan as a legal force and political leader.
You say that the coup attempt was not organized by the army, that the army was used and that it was not for the benefit of the Turkish state. You’re talking about the CIA behind the July 15 coup attempt. Was FETÖ completely controlled by the CIA and the US?
The position of the Turkish Army is of primary importance here. From the very beginning it is actually a very clear situation. In spite of all misunderstandings, the Ergenekon case, which is a completely false case, was played by global powers such as FETÖ and CIA. It should be said that the structure of the army was not in favor of Erdogan. It was not a military coup on July 15 attempt was only a small part of the military in Turkey. The coup leaders were neither patriots nor Kemalists. It consisted entirely of FETÖ and the CIA. This was not an attempt at US government designed and approved of regime change. It can be said that it was the initiative of an organization that focused on global structures within the structure of the USA. Because before Trump, the US administration had no unified understanding. At the time, there was a globalist-national conflict and competition within the US administration. We can say that the CIA’s globalist part is behind the coup attempt. As far as I know, there have been serious disagreements in the US and perhaps the coup attempt could have been more easily suppressed by Erdogan. In short, the United States did not have a unified idea of regime change in Turkey. FETÖ was mobilized by a single fraction within the CIA structure. This team also advocated the presence of an independent Kurdish state, and predicts a transformation in Turkey. But this plan was not accepted by all parties within the US administration. But I have to say that. They also can not see whether the realization of the coup in Turkey have asked the US elections and the election of Trump endorsed her. The main reason for this was that Trump did not like Erdogan, but he was anti-Turkish and Islamic and did not share the ideas of the Great Middle East Project in general.
“Turkey will emerge from NATO”
Turkey, Russia took the S-400 air defense system. The reaction of the US and NATO is obvious. There is talk of economic sanctions against Turkey. In the West, some commentators considers that Turkey’s axis change. How do you view all these developments?
I think now is a time to be questioning of Turkey’s NATO membership. I don’t know when, but it’s gonna happen. Obviously II. Turkey’s joining NATO after World War II, to participate on the grounds that the Soviet threat was a situation that can be explained in one way or the logic of such a strategic framework. But Turkey today pose a threat to the security of the United States itself. Russia is not a threat. Russia is neutral or friendly country. The US is no longer the country that exhibit class hostile to Turkey in a theoretical sense. I assume that the Turkish government knew and was aware of the US relationship with the coup on 15 July. Therefore no longer be a part of NATO is a kind of suicide for Turkey’s sovereignty. Therefore, Russia is the only alternative. Russia’s strategic weapons like the S-400 are the only alternatives. The choice of S-400 in terms of Turkey is also a rational choice. The liberalized its defense and Turkey’s withdrawal from NATO is only a matter of time. Of course I can’t tell you when. But we can say that that makes sense. We are opposed to US dominance in Turkey. We are also against Russia’s sovereignty over other countries. This is the case in a multipolar world. Our weapons will save Turkey from the West.